Dialysis and Medicare Again

Update: 10/21/12: I found this article about Medicare Advantage plans and how they are ripping off the system.  Interesting read.

Update 10/16/12: Shortly after I published this, I came across this posting about a speech by Barry Straube, MD, at the National Renal Administrators Association’s annual conference on “What is the future of the ESRD Program?”.  He offers some facts about dialysis in the context of Medicare spending that are pretty startling.  For example, “$37 billion spent on the near 430,000 (estimated for 2012) individuals with kidney disease each year,”  That’s about $86,000 per year per patient!

As a dialysis patient, you need to understand some economics about how things work with insurance both Private Pay and Medicare.

If you’re working and you are under the medical insurance of your employer that only applies for 30 months after you begin dialysis.  After 30 months, you come under Medicare as the primary insurance and your private insurance becomes the secondary.  In that situation, the private insurance should pay for most charges not paid by Medicare. Medicare only pays the first 80% of the Part B services like dialysis and you are responsible for the 20%. But there will be times when you are stuck with the whole bill or a large portion of it such as at the beginning of the plan year when the deductibles come into play.  But you have to be signed up for Medicare Part B.  You already have Part A if you paid into Medicare while you were working.  Part B is paid with a monthly charge of $99.90 for 2012.

Private Pay as Primary

In the first 30 months when private insu0rance is primary and you don’t have Medicare, if your private insurance plan has a $2000 deductible, you will pay the first $2000 of any medical expenses including dialysis until that level is reached, then, the private insurance will kick in.  Most plans today have a deductible and then only pay a percentage of the charge and you are responsible for the balance.  In my experience, the co-pay is about 20%.  This means the insurance company will pay the first 80% and you pay the remaining 20%.  Plus you may be responsible for co-pays of $30-50 for doctors and $100 for emergency room visits.  (Of course, every private pay is different so check with your plan administrator for how your plan works.  I am using these as examples and based on generalities.)

You may purchase Medicare Part B to pay the  percentage that private pay doesn’t cover.  To do that, you need to sign up for Medicare and pay the monthly premium of $99.90 (if your income is $85,000 or less.  You pay more if your income is above that.)  For specifics, see the Medicare website. Medicare will bill you every three months for your premium or it’s taken out of your Social Security disbursement.  This means, if you get Social Security Disability, for example, you’ll get $99.90 less.

Medicare as Primary

After 30 months, your private pay insurance (if you have it)  becomes secondary and Medicare is primary.  This means the private insurance will pay the amounts not paid by Medicare (excluding deductibles and co-pays.)  Even with both plans in effect, you have some bills to pay at the beginning of the plan years or on an on-going basis with co-pays.

Trust me, you’re never off the hook! There’s always a bill to be paid somewhere in the system. Even under Part A (Hospitalization), you have to pay the first $1156 of an in-patient hospital stay and there are other charges for which you may be responsible.  See the chart at the Medicare website.

Part B Medicare has a $140 deductible for 2012.  This means you paid the first $140 dollars of any doctor visits or dialysis  PLUS you are responsible for 20% of the Part B services after the deductible is used up.  If you continue to be covered by private pay, the private insurance should cover most, if not all the 20% not paid by Medicare (after deductibles and co-pays required under that plan.)  In 2013, there may be some changes to deductible and premium amounts. but as of this moment, there are no announcements.  See the Medicare What’s New website for any news about changes and I will post them when they are announced.

For 2013, Don’t forget that Open Enrollment begins and ends
earlier—October 15–December 7.

DevonTexas © 2012

About DevonTexas

I am a person with ESRD (End Stage Renal Disease) which means my kidneys don't work. Forty or so years ago that would have been a death sentence but today there is Dialysis which means I could be hooked up to a machine that would clean my blood as the kidneys should. Three days a week, I went to a dialysis center and had too very large needles stuck in my arm to remove and replace my blood as it passed through a process where it was cleaned and the fluid was removed, a process taking a little over four hours each time. In November 2017, I received a kidney transplant from a deceased donor. My life went into overdrive. With a "new" functioning kidney, I no longer had to go to a dialysis center and my days were not open to be lived rather than recovering from dialysis which meant dialyzing for three days and resting for 4 days a week. I work full-time and often 50 hours per week. It is something I never imagined. I highly recommend it! HeeHee I want to advance knowledge about dialysis and transplant so that others can learn from my experience and mistakes. We shouldn't have to reinvent the wheel, eh? There is so much to be learned and experienced about our predicament. There are vast resources available to support us and enrich our lives but many patients don't know about them. There are also many issues that we have to deal with whether we want to or not. So I blog about them in www.DevonTexas.com All comments are confidential until I approve them. If you don't want your comment public, let me know and I will respect that. So, feel free to leave a comment. I also blog in LegacyTales in WordPress if you are interested in the ramblings of a Old Man. Give a peek and let me know what you think. https://legacytales.wordpress.com/ Enjoy.
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1 Response to Dialysis and Medicare Again

  1. Sara says:

    And ‘they’ keep saying that our friends in Europe have it wrong with their medical care? Think again–look at the payments coming and going for everyone in the U.S.–and believe me ‘someone’ is getting richer all the time (i.e., drug and insurance companies). I sure hope I live to see some true upheaval here with this corruption. Thanks, Devon

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